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		<title>Secured Credit Card help</title>
		<link>http://www.dealnest.com/2010/03/18/secured-credit-card-help/</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Mar 2010 11:02:43 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>admin</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[ Hello all,   I have bad credit right now and all of my old cc is in collection agency and it will fall off within the next 3 years, im trying to rebuild my  credit, i had some people advising me to get a secured credit card. ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello all,</p>
<p> </p>
<p>I have bad <a href="http://www.HOUSINGLOANCONSOLIDATION.info/" style=""   onmouseover="self.status='http://www.HOUSINGLOANCONSOLIDATION.info/';return true;" onmouseout="self.status=''">credit</a> right now and all of my old cc is in collection agency and it will fall off within the next 3 years, im trying to rebuild my  <a href="http://www.MORTGAGE-MERGE.info/" style=""   onmouseover="self.status='http://www.MORTGAGE-MERGE.info/';return true;" onmouseout="self.status=''">credit</a>, i had some people advising me to get a secured <a href="http://www.LOANUNIFY.info/" style=""   onmouseover="self.status='http://www.LOANUNIFY.info/';return true;" onmouseout="self.status=''">credit</a> card. I was wondering anyone in this forums had any experience with any secured credit card.</p>
<p> </p>
<p>here are a list of cards i researched.</p>
<p> </p>
<p>BOA secured</p>
<p>New Millennium Bank secured</p>
<p>Orchard banks Secured</p>
<p>WellsFargo Secured</p>
<p>First Premier</p>
<p>Public Secured</p>
<p> </p>
<p>i want to get a card that  can report to the 3 credit bureau, can be upgraded to a unsecured credit card eventually.</p>
<p> </p>
<p>can you guys please give me some advice or recommendation.</p>
<p></p>
<p> </p>
<p> </p>
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		<title>help with cash advanced loans</title>
		<link>http://www.dealnest.com/2010/03/18/help-with-cash-advanced-loans/</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Mar 2010 10:44:39 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>jedwan</dc:creator>
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		<category><![CDATA[advance-loans]]></category>
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		<description><![CDATA[ I had a couple cash advance loans and now i have some of them report it to my CRA as bad debt.     I had one from Ace cash advance, and Ez corps and First cash advanced and most of it is in CA office]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had a couple cash advance <a href="http://www.CREDIT-CONSOLIDATE.info/" style=""   onmouseover="self.status='http://www.CREDIT-CONSOLIDATE.info/';return true;" onmouseout="self.status=''">loans</a> and now i have some of them report it to my CRA as bad debt.</p>
<p> </p>
<p> </p>
<p>I had one from Ace cash advance, and Ez corps and First cash advanced and most of it is in CA office.</p>
<p> </p>
<p>i was wondering does cash advance have a SOL date? because it&#8217;s on my CR,  and Will it be removed after 7 1/2 year?</p>
<p> </p>
<p>I live in texas btw the SOL in texas is 4 year</p>
<p> </p>
<p>thanks all in advance</p>
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		<title>CA says OC will not PFD</title>
		<link>http://www.dealnest.com/2010/03/18/ca-says-oc-will-not-pfd/</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Mar 2010 09:20:48 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>jedwan</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[ I have a line of credit (2nd mortgage) that is bad debt/collection but not sold off.  CA contacted me negotiating to settle.  We came to agreement of settlement, but I request that would PFD.  CA said under Fair Credit Act Reporting that they will not modify settlement other then change status as settle for less.  I even asked if they would delete any damaging inquiries the CA and OC pulled on my credit, and they refuse to.  I know that I can possibly get a statisfactory in payment so they won't come after me later.  But, should I press CA to remove damaging inquiries or a better reporting status?   Will my FICO increase if I get a settle for less status? ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a line of <a href="http://www.HOMELOANINSURANCE.info/" style=""   onmouseover="self.status='http://www.HOMELOANINSURANCE.info/';return true;" onmouseout="self.status=''">credit</a> (2nd <a href="http://www.WINTERHOMEINSURANCE.info/" style=""   onmouseover="self.status='http://www.WINTERHOMEINSURANCE.info/';return true;" onmouseout="self.status=''">mortgage</a>) that is bad debt/collection but not sold off.  CA contacted me negotiating to settle.  We came to agreement of settlement, but I request that would PFD.  CA said under Fair <a href="http://www.LOANORGANIZE.info/" style=""   onmouseover="self.status='http://www.LOANORGANIZE.info/';return true;" onmouseout="self.status=''">Credit</a> Act Reporting that they will not modify settlement other then change status as settle for less.  I even asked if they would delete any damaging inquiries the CA and OC pulled on my <a href="http://www.AUTOLOANINSURANCE.info/" style=""   onmouseover="self.status='http://www.AUTOLOANINSURANCE.info/';return true;" onmouseout="self.status=''">credit</a>, and they refuse to.  I know that I can possibly get a statisfactory in payment so they won&#8217;t come after me later.  But, should I press CA to remove damaging inquiries or a better reporting status?</p>
<p> </p>
<p>Will my FICO increase if I get a settle for less status?</p>
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		<title>Account show as bad debt/collection but is not in collection</title>
		<link>http://www.dealnest.com/2010/03/18/account-show-as-bad-debtcollection-but-is-not-in-collection/</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Mar 2010 09:19:52 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>jedwan</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[ The negative account I'm trying to dispute settle has an outstanding balance of $4,328.  It was an auto loan.  The account status is bad debt/collection and discription of Charged Off Account.   A CA has contacted me several time and said they willing to accept 70% of balance.  I was willing to pay 70% if OC willing to PFD, they took $20 as deposit for settlement.  CA came back and said OC will accept 75% of balance.  I request that they sent me a settlement offer, with PFD in writing before I commit.   They then argue that I had already committed payment when I put down $20.  Now CA has revoked any offers and is only accepting paid in full.   What should I do now?  If I paid in full, can I still request that they PFD]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The negative account I&#8217;m trying to dispute settle has an outstanding balance of $4,328.  It was an <a href="http://www.LOANUNIFY.info/" style=""   onmouseover="self.status='http://www.LOANUNIFY.info/';return true;" onmouseout="self.status=''">auto loan</a>.  The account status is bad debt/collection and discription of Charged Off Account.</p>
<p> </p>
<p>A CA has contacted me several time and said they willing to accept 70% of balance.  I was willing to pay 70% if OC willing to PFD, they took $20 as deposit for settlement.  CA came back and said OC will accept 75% of balance.  I request that they sent me a settlement offer, with PFD in writing before I commit.   They then argue that I had already committed payment when I put down $20.  Now CA has revoked any offers and is only accepting paid in full.</p>
<p> </p>
<p>What should I do now?  If I paid in full, can I still request that they PFD?</p>
<p> </p>
<p>Also, how much of an impact on my FICO if I get this PFD or settled?  Currently, it show that there&#8217;s 2-30days late.</p>
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		<title>CO Cap 1 not reporting correctly</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Mar 2010 07:56:19 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>jedwan</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[         I've been racking my brain trying to figure out why my wife's TU is much lower than her other reports  EQ is reporting a 677 but her TU is showing 602 then I noticed that this Cap 1 CO is reporting incorrectly. ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> </p>
<p> </p>
<p><img border="0" src="http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p61/mainequahog/Capture-1.jpg" /></p>
<p> </p>
<p> </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been racking my brain trying to figure out why my wife&#8217;s TU is much lower than her other reports  EQ is reporting a 677 but her TU is showing 602 then I noticed that this Cap 1 CO is reporting incorrectly.</p>
<p> </p>
<p>This CO was settled to avoid a lawsuit but the account hasn&#8217;t been updated to show that.   So last week we mailed the settlement agreements which show this was settled in full and a copy of the cashier&#8217;s check to the CRAs.   Then today I noticed that the account is showing as being updated recently (03/2010) but the past due amount was not changed to zero as it should be.  In addition the date closed had been changed to 02/2010 when it should be 9/2005.   </p>
<p> </p>
<p>As a result of this her FICO scores are reporting that she has a 30 day late when it shouldn&#8217;t be.</p>
<p> </p>
<p>We haven&#8217;t received anything from TU yet about our dispute and the account has not been marked as in dispute either</p>
<p> </p>
<p> We are trying to obtain a <a href="http://www.LOANUNIFY.info/" style=""   onmouseover="self.status='http://www.LOANUNIFY.info/';return true;" onmouseout="self.status=''">mortgage</a> and this is proving to be a problem.</p>
<p> </p>
<p>Can someone offer some advice on how best to resolve this?</p>
<p> </p>
<p>Just as an aside: We tried contacting Cap 1 but they would not speak to us told us to speak with the CA.  The CA has told us to speak with Cap 1   :smileymad: :smileysad:</p>
<p> </p>
<p> </p>
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		<title>applying for credit</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Mar 2010 05:28:38 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>admin</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[ I am trying to rebuild my credit, i got approved for a cap one car for 500, they said they dont do CLIs until 6 to 12 months. Is it bad to apply for more credit cards around the same time? i applied for other cards n was not approved]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am trying to rebuild my <a href="http://www.AUTOLOANINSURANCE.info/" style=""   onmouseover="self.status='http://www.AUTOLOANINSURANCE.info/';return true;" onmouseout="self.status=''">credit</a>, i got approved for a cap one car for 500, they said they dont do CLIs until 6 to 12 months. Is it bad to apply for more <a href="http://www.DREAMHOMEINSURANCE.info/" style=""   onmouseover="self.status='http://www.DREAMHOMEINSURANCE.info/';return true;" onmouseout="self.status=''">credit</a> cards around the same time? i applied for other cards n was not approved. I want to have more than 1 card so i can build my <a href="http://www.HOUSINGLOANCONSOLIDATION.info/" style=""   onmouseover="self.status='http://www.HOUSINGLOANCONSOLIDATION.info/';return true;" onmouseout="self.status=''">credit</a>. i tried discover, amex, denied. I dont want to keep applying n keep getting inq so what should i do.</p>
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		<title>Midland Addresses</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Mar 2010 04:53:08 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>admin</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[ Anyone have any Midland snail mail addresses for a GW and wouldn't mind PMing me?.  I have their Aero Drive address.  Wondering if there are any more I should know about.  Thanks!       ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anyone have any Midland snail mail addresses for a GW and wouldn&#8217;t mind PMing me?.  I have their Aero Drive address.  Wondering if there are any more I should know about.  Thanks!</p>
<p> </p>
<p> </p>
<p> </p>
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		<title>Theoretical question for the heavy-hitters!</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Mar 2010 03:42:16 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>admin</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[ I have a theoretical question - I'd love anyone's input and/or theory.  Let's say:   an OC and a CA report on a CR;  snooping around uncovered that the OC and the CA are owned by the same company;  OC is a little suspect because they specialize in granting credit to poor credit candidates; CA is very suspect because they hide behind several confusing DBAs and former DBAs;  OC and CA made it very difficult to know that they were owned by the same company.     Slimey business practices aside, would this constitute double reporting?  Would it violate any portion of the FCRA?  If it is grey area regarding violation, is it cause for filing complaint with the FTC and/or state AG?  If it's not a violation, would a FTC and AG threat be enough leverage to have both items removed?         ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a theoretical question &#8211; I&#8217;d love anyone&#8217;s input and/or theory.  Let&#8217;s say:</p>
<p> </p>
<ul>
<li>an OC and a CA report on a CR; </li>
<li>snooping around uncovered that the OC and the CA are owned by the same company; </li>
<li>OC is a little suspect because they specialize in granting <a href="http://www.DREAMHOMEINSURANCE.info/" style=""   onmouseover="self.status='http://www.DREAMHOMEINSURANCE.info/';return true;" onmouseout="self.status=''">credit</a> to poor <a href="http://www.MORTGAGEUNIFY.info/" style=""   onmouseover="self.status='http://www.MORTGAGEUNIFY.info/';return true;" onmouseout="self.status=''">credit</a> candidates;</li>
<li>CA is <em>very</em> suspect because they hide behind <em>several</em> confusing DBAs and former DBAs; </li>
<li>OC and CA made it <em>very </em>difficult to know that they were owned by the same company.  </li>
</ul>
<p> </p>
<p>Slimey business practices aside, would this constitute double reporting?  Would it violate any portion of the FCRA?  If it is grey area regarding violation, is it cause for filing complaint with the FTC and/or state AG?  If it&#8217;s not a violation, would a FTC and AG threat be enough leverage to have both items removed?</p>
<p> </p>
<p> </p>
<p> </p>
<p> </p>
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		<title>Late payments, but im a cosignor.</title>
		<link>http://www.dealnest.com/2010/03/17/late-payments-but-im-a-cosignor/</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Mar 2010 03:37:44 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>admin</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[ Hi everyone!  Was just wondering about this situation.  I have been a cosignor on a $2000 loan from BOA for like 6 years or so.  For 4 years it had horrible payment history.  Deliquency, late late, late, etc.  For the last 12 months or so, the account has been completely current though.  The account is almost payed off and I was wondering if I have my name removed as a cosignor would it help or harm my credit? ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi everyone!  Was just wondering about this situation.  I have been a cosignor on a $2000 <a href="http://www.LOAN-MERGE.info/" style=""   onmouseover="self.status='http://www.LOAN-MERGE.info/';return true;" onmouseout="self.status=''">loan</a> from BOA for like 6 years or so.  For 4 years it had horrible payment history.  Deliquency, late late, late, etc.  For the last 12 months or so, the account has been completely current though.  The account is almost payed off and I was wondering if I have my name removed as a cosignor would it help or harm my <a href="http://www.CREDITUNIFY.info/" style=""   onmouseover="self.status='http://www.CREDITUNIFY.info/';return true;" onmouseout="self.status=''">credit</a>?</p>
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		<title>NCO Financial and OC &#8211; DirecTV</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Mar 2010 03:36:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[ Hello everyone,   This posting is to document a PFD letter to NCO for a DirecTV account to be mailed via registered USPS. I would like to share the timeline to everyone and will update posting as event occurs. ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello everyone,</p>
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<p>This posting is to document a PFD letter to NCO for a DirecTV account to be mailed via registered USPS. I would like to share the timeline to everyone and will update posting as event occurs.</p>
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<p>I am ready to mail the letter and will post the post mark date of the letter soon.</p>
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<p>Until the next posting&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.</p>
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